동영상: 노 리밋 Superstar

#1 FishermansFriend, 2011 07 22 15:20

Enjoy the first video from poker prodigy Jose "Girah" Macedo!

Join the discussion with Girah in our forums about the hands and the video:
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=141718

As always, please keep your comments in English!

#2 luckexpress, 2011 07 22 15:59

second

#3 goldchess, 2011 07 22 16:07

zomg

#5 IronPumper, 2011 07 22 16:16

lol, I have no access to the
discussion-forum?^^

#6 rom187, 2011 07 22 16:22

OOOOOMMMMMGGGGG

#7 Halozination, 2011 07 22 16:24

wow very nice video. usually coaches dont prepare so well :).

#8 FishermansFriend, 2011 07 22 16:28

@5 should be fine now, took a bit till the server updated

#9 praios, 2011 07 22 16:32

good video. how are the results of the hands`?

#11 IronPumper, 2011 07 22 16:35

edit: now it works.

#12 praios, 2011 07 22 16:39

how are your nicks on the pokersites

#13 JorgeTeixeira, 2011 07 22 16:49

It was a great start =)

Great video!

#14 richum, 2011 07 22 16:52

Nice ;)

#15 MastaMorten, 2011 07 22 17:09

is lockpoker gonna be the next partnerroom? or just cause he is part of the pro team there?

#16 ambientswatertight, 2011 07 22 17:10

great video!

#17 Aik777, 2011 07 22 17:11

Talented!!! Nice Video thumbs up !!!!!

#18 OnEoFaKinD89, 2011 07 22 17:20

@praios: u obv didn't follow Girah's advice to have a look at the threads :D
Villain folded (maybe 22) when Villain was bluffing and overbet with 96ss when Hero was bluffcatching ;)

#19 OnEoFaKinD89, 2011 07 22 17:21

-.- obv meant "Villain folded (maybe 22) when HERO was bluffing..."

#20 RegBuster90, 2011 07 22 17:21

great vid :)

#21 filipetheman, 2011 07 22 17:35

your my new idol!!! loved the dissection of the hands really really good video.

#22 filipetheman, 2011 07 22 17:46

really really enjoyed seeing a lot hand combo analysis during the hands.

in the future a type of video which i would love to see personally would be instead of dissecting your hand vs villain´s range, do a type of range vs range video, and how you would play diferent type of hands in that situation and working more with frequencies.

#23 praios, 2011 07 22 17:49

do not see any screennames in the thread

#24 MikeF, 2011 07 22 17:57

enjoyed it alot, top notch analysis keep up the good work

#25 atllas20, 2011 07 22 18:04

n1

#26 DasWodka, 2011 07 22 18:05

nice vid. why is your english so good?

#27 GoByWheel, 2011 07 22 18:16

jungleman wrote everything on a paper and he reads it in the video :D

#28 hackbinder, 2011 07 22 18:18

wow... i'm 10 minutes in and already I feel smarter... awesome vid!

#29 Plajer1, 2011 07 22 18:22

very nice

#30 Amplify, 2011 07 22 18:29

Great video! I enjoyed it very much.

#31 freebsdfag, 2011 07 22 18:30

For the love of all that is holy (nothing) and sacred (even less) coach me!

#32 ripper92, 2011 07 22 18:30

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

#33 kingpowl, 2011 07 22 18:38

vn

#34 Guscode, 2011 07 22 18:45

very n1...hope to see more videos like this!

#35 RahXephon1, 2011 07 22 19:18

In before everyone goes broke trying to apply those concepts to NL10-NL100.

I still liked the video as an insight on how you work on the hands.

#36 Achillesblatt, 2011 07 22 19:41

PLEASE PUT ALL LINKS IN ORDER IN THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION! makes life much easier for all viewers!

#37 yegg, 2011 07 22 19:53

[ ] nuts in ho

#38 M1rCea, 2011 07 22 20:03

Awesome video, congrats, didn't expect you to go this deep into the hands and with such precision.

Also, I really liked your talk about fish

#39 figeljfigelj, 2011 07 22 20:11

One of the best videos I have seen here.

#40 Falco35, 2011 07 22 20:46

Nice One! Interesting approach.
I like very much.
Thx for open the vid for every Status

#41 Benjen, 2011 07 22 20:55

Even as a non Nl cash player you can learn a lot from the video.
Keep it up.

#42 jantheone771, 2011 07 22 20:56

Ty so much.

#43 Zyzzz, 2011 07 22 20:56

this one is awesome

#44 suitedeule, 2011 07 22 20:59

v nice, thank you. plz do something like this for plo as well ;)

#45 ManoloB99, 2011 07 22 21:14

Amazing the amount of information that goes through his head while making a decision. All those combinations, numbers, percentages... wow. I take it that is what is needed to be very successful at those high levels. I wonder why do so many people waste their times with poker knowing they don't have that type of analytical skills to be successful at the really important levels. Something to think about...

#46 zokerluck, 2011 07 22 21:34

are u halozination from pokerstars...if yes youre a great player keep it up. the video os ok but i feel not so good when too many people watch this cause i feel they imrove and i cant beat them anymore...

#47 MastaMorten, 2011 07 22 21:35

nice vid. but the ps.com intro is way too loud! this sound almost blew my head off!! ^^

#48 Scooop, 2011 07 22 21:37

the explanation in the first hand is excellent.
In my mind what one could learn from this hand (if one didn't knew it anyways) is that it is a serious flaw in your game plan to tripple barrel OOP on low paired boards with deep stacks with a high frequency, because the range your are repping with a riverbet is so small and even your overpairs looks pretty marginal, when you face a river raise.
That's why you can turn even top of your bluff call range into a pure bluff in this spot, because he has basically no broke range there.
I think a lot of players have quite a few of these leaky spots, such analysis like you did can indeed reveal them.

The QQ hand on the other hand is imho just standard. If he is overagressive it is just so logical to turn topset into a bluffcatcher and give him rope to hang himself...
Just close your eyes and call him all the way down - unbelievable to see so many strong players at 2+2 seriously argue for a river fold just because the board looks scary, a fold there would be absolutely criminal imo.

great video, keep it up that way :-)

#49 babypfau, 2011 07 22 21:41

scooop is bvackkkkk

#50 webrula, 2011 07 22 21:44

everything standard, easy game.

#51 chrisal, 2011 07 22 21:48

taugt

#52 Eisflamme, 2011 07 22 21:51

Eventually someone at ps.de who's kinda precise. Liked it, although it's really unnecessary to work on this stuff at nl100 or nl200 :p

#53 Apfelschorle77, 2011 07 22 22:08

would be nice to see a nl100 vid from u :>

#54 lessthanthreee, 2011 07 22 22:32

very good analysis, clear thought process. well done

#55 TheKami, 2011 07 22 22:45

Will all of the videos be viewable for beginners?

PS: i like, very nice video

#56 supeyrio, 2011 07 22 23:07

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#57 two2kuul, 2011 07 22 23:13

it sounds like if he reads everything of a paper or something imo... :D
still good!

#58 Pablo1337, 2011 07 22 23:21

cant say any different... great guy :)

#59 everyoneissolid, 2011 07 22 23:25

awesome video
nice structured analysis
you explained your thoughts very well
furthermore you spoke fluent english
well done looking forward to the next vid :>

#60 felipefrancez, 2011 07 23 00:05

Poooo... e o cara nem pra falar portugues...

#61 joeldowey123, 2011 07 23 00:15

this stuff is way over my head! ill hopefully get it one day!!!

#62 Shujee, 2011 07 23 00:16

Just very good vid, keep them coming :).

#63 PASTERTEK, 2011 07 23 00:20

First off all..CONGRATES!!
I would like to comment the "time issue"....i agree totally and i use that a lot in my game....but i never heard no one "thinking" of that. Thank you for that "acreditar que estou certo":p
Huge analysis...well explained even for players like me that don´t have your level of knowledge.
O meu obj. é poder pagar te para meu treinador um dia!!

Huge abraço e PARABENS!!!

#65 Kempeneers, 2011 07 23 00:54

Nice one, there is also a cool vidz where he presents his poker's beginning!

#67 janushr, 2011 07 23 01:54

hi,welcome and first thank you,for possibilitie to all see(thats not standard)vid and for true insight into ur thinking...even,agree w #45,when saw u think,thats way out of normal people league...congrats and wish good luck and all the best in the future:)greetings from croatia:)

#68 beardsell, 2011 07 23 02:20

u're the best !

#69 vsirin, 2011 07 23 02:44

Hi Jose,

I really enjoyed this video, its fascinating to get an insight into the complexities of a deep, high stakes hands.

Having said that, I would like to make a suggestion for future videos.

Since many of your viewers will be midstakes players who are good but not great players, and who spend a lot of time grinding and not as much as they should working on their game, it would be great to see a series that focuses on how players such as this could start to use the type of analysis you showed us here to work on their own games.

For people who have rarely done much work like this other than putting the odd range into pokerstove, it would be great to have a series showing us some basic ways we can analyze some of the more common spots we find ourselves in - no need to work on situations as specific and complex as the ones in this video just yet!

Of course if you needed someone to contribute hand histories for something like this I would be happy to oblige!

Either way, thanks for a great video and I'll be looking forward to the next one.

#70 Siete777, 2011 07 23 03:01

v v good video.

#71 xlesleyx, 2011 07 23 03:27

AWESOME you just raised the bar.

But i have to say im glad i play small stakes sng that was some indepth stuff!!!

Your brain must get severly thrashed in one session.:)_

Great video though.

#72 filipetheman, 2011 07 23 04:20

one question on the first hand, you talk about the reg not isolating the fish all that much because he is extremely agro post flop, but still if hes playing 40 ish% of hands he has air so much that it isnt that hard to play him IP with a wider range then the 15% you talk about the reg isolating. i believe it should be slightly wider, what are your thoughts on that and what would be your isolating range against this fish in particular in the reg villain´s shoes??

#73 Johniiicek, 2011 07 23 06:25

I dont want to meet people like him at the table, who do get inside my head as their daily bread ! "fishcry" :D

#75 DONGSIM, 2011 07 23 08:50

What is the name of that program tht creates a break down distribution?

#76 Ninjai, 2011 07 23 10:45

Finally a really good production. I like the format a lot and I believe it's quite some work to put all the flopzilla stuff onto powerpoint. However, instead of just taking the lineare ranges, a quick glance at the hands villain would really show up with in any spot given on what you think he'd either bet or check on any street, would probably even be more beneficial, if you take these into consideration while actually playing the hand.

Moreover, one thing that I'd regard as helpful especially in hand no.2 would be, if you raised balance (and its significance/insignificance over max.EV) as a topic, gave some examples of hands you'd play out the same way or slightly different, simultaneously listing pro's and con's. Finally, during the vid you mentioned some facts about the villains, saying e.g. he was 1,5bb at 5/10. It'll be awesome stating in how far that becomes part of your thought-process.

Overall just a very very good vid. Keep going!

#77 horsetranquilizer, 2011 07 23 11:05

wow. very good vid!

#78 SvenBe, 2011 07 23 11:08

TheKami: all following videos will be for at least platinum level, sorry.

#79 MancaMulas, 2011 07 23 11:43

time bank is only 15 seconds.

#80 speknaze, 2011 07 23 11:56

nice one, but the result of the hands, good or bad?! So much curious in me :)

#81 Trickshot625, 2011 07 23 12:10

great video. just one note about turning 99 into a bluff. I think u clarified that u have a lot of value-combos by the river. So from a gto perspective u should have a bluffing range, which should naturally consist of the top of your folding range. To conclude, i don't think villain can pwn you by bet/calling TT+ b/c it should be -EV or BE vs ur entire range (as long as u don't get out olf line with ur frequencies)

#82 busfahrer09, 2011 07 23 13:23

wow, I´m feeling really dumb now. -.-

insane good video, gonna watch it 1-2 times more again...

#83 st1nson, 2011 07 23 13:29

very nice video. looking forward to seeing a sessionreview maybe :)

#84 KronanHonSjalv, 2011 07 23 13:47

sick video.

#85 KronanHonSjalv, 2011 07 23 13:47

hope we will se more from you!

#86 cozaro, 2011 07 23 14:00

very nice video!! Keep the good work!

#87 Saruniks, 2011 07 23 15:00

what did he use on 9:20?

#88 schnup07, 2011 07 23 15:50

flopzilla

#91 imstoked, 2011 07 23 21:30

girah, make something for the micros plz.

#93 Vondelpark, 2011 07 23 22:00

just great stuff!

#94 Bobbs, 2011 07 23 22:10

First of all thanks for this great video. I have some suggestions for your next presentations.

1.) Maybe it would be better to visualize villains ranges using a Screenshot of the Handrangeselection Tool of eg. Pokerstove instead of only writing the hand as a simple string.

2.) Maybe it would be better to use a replayer to present the hands. Personally I dont want to see how the hand played out on further street if the flop action is considered etc.

There were two mistakes on the slides:
percieve <-> perceive,
inferrence <-> inference

I really liked the part about the adjustments vs this particular fish.
Keep up the great work!

#95 dukkke, 2011 07 23 22:22

Really like how u analyze both hands. One of the best vids I've seen in a long time.
Would appreciate a theory vid about concepts in ur game.

#96 fireocean, 2011 07 23 23:08

nice video it seems that you really worked on that..

#100 Dodadodadodada, 2011 07 24 02:17

love seeing u pay attention on timingtells very much!

#101 LoKKK, 2011 07 24 06:54

crap

#102 LoKKK, 2011 07 24 06:59

this guy is a total nerd .!

#103 PuebloP, 2011 07 24 07:07

ty Girah, ty ty ty!

#104 rounder1, 2011 07 24 07:45

When the translation into the other languages will appear?

#105 Steelbrewer, 2011 07 24 09:47

Very good video, deep analysis and unorthodox play, just mention that those variants should be applied against thinking opponents.

#106 kidzoltan, 2011 07 24 12:46

WOW It was my birthday on July22 thanks guys! :))

#108 globalcash, 2011 07 24 14:45

tx for vid.

#109 bellski, 2011 07 24 19:32

amazing vid

#110 Byterone, 2011 07 24 21:48

i have a question... on the 2nd hand if you put the villain with that range of hands and with high percentage of bluffing hands why didn't you checked raised in the river to maximize your profit?

Thank you for this excelent vid....

go girah go portugal! :D

#111 Siete777, 2011 07 25 02:58

watched a part of the vid a 2nd time now and have to admit that - beside ur poker skills - u might be one of the best coaches Ive ever listened to (beside PG). U put a lot of work into the script I guess and invested into the preparation and it was worth it! Long story short: Ur didactic sills are impressive!

I hope u will keep this motivation in the future because this is the first time in years I could indeed learn sth. from a NL video (I mean didactic-wise, cauz the hands were kind of standard imo) ;)

tnx for the vid & regards

#112 Fruechte, 2011 07 25 03:14

Awesome, thank you for sharing your wisdom!

#113 thisrockz, 2011 07 25 05:01

nice work!

#114 claudius84, 2011 07 25 13:19

Great vid! Would love to hear more about timing tells & would like to see you work with Flopzilla.

However, I found some mistakes in your river shove (hand 1) calculations.

You're not shoving 14.908 to win 11.100, but 19.208 to win 11.100
Somehow you were still fairly accurate with his 'need to fold' percentage. This should be at 63% instead of 65%.

Thanks for the video and hope to see a new one soon!

#115 Gangstahhh, 2011 07 25 13:53

Very nice,

What I do find a bit odd, in the last hand, you do c/c, but you say he has 15 flush combo's, but this is almost the best hand you can have (The queens), and I think very very few players would actualy overbet the river with flushes, just because they expect you to be pretty weak to the board, and THEY just think you're gonna fold sooo much. Now it's certainly a possibility that he is a very good player who would actually overbet to rep so much bluffs, I certainly think he would think about it longer than 3 seconds, if he has a bluff he probably thought that this was the perfect bluff card, but to have a flush like 98dd he would probably think for like 6/7 seconds before he would think of to overbet the river to rep his bluffs and make you call light. (still assuming he's a very good player, which he might not even be, and wouldn't overbet the river with 98dd at all)

#116 dozeer, 2011 07 25 16:53

finally. watching now, looks solid

#117 Lukasz40i4, 2011 07 26 00:51

I'm so impressed, the video is great and extremly well prepared. Probably I will never play that high, but the analysis is helpful anyway.
You play very smart poker! Seriously, if I could effort, I would be your student in a minute :)

Hope new video will be out there soon!

#118 livelydolphin, 2011 07 26 10:47

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/50-100-bluffing-200bbs-975720/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56/medium-stakes-pl-nl/10-20-snap-call-deep-top-set-969085/

#119 RicoW, 2011 07 26 18:33

I have got a question about the hands. How do you convert the ranges you give to the villain to possible combo's. I can imagine you can't have analysis software always running next to the open tables.

Or is it kinda naturally developt while playing and studying alot?

Great vid btw :D

#120 Scottie, 2011 07 27 04:49

The Master hast spoken....

#121 ramjack, 2011 07 27 09:04

can't seem to run the video. all i get is a black screen... :(

#122 DavidGarban, 2011 07 27 11:44

Great video.

#123 DavidGarban, 2011 07 27 11:47

#111

+1

#124 Jelieva, 2011 07 27 17:49

mmm sexy boy

#125 r4zor, 2011 07 27 18:30

its all included from hand ranges- combinatorics to fold equity- im interested how you are taking this deep thinking process into your grindsession :) a very good vid! like it alot

btw, are u calculating some EV too?

i like the pokerstatic interview with him....

+++++1

#126 DavidGarban, 2011 07 28 16:25

when do we get more from him? :)

thank you.

#127 Girah, 2011 07 29 15:59

Hey guys, thanks so much for all your feedback. I worked really hard on this video and reading all your comments means a lot to me and makes all my effort worthwhile. I learnt a lot from this first video-making experience, and also received lots of great advice from the smart people over at Poker-Strategy, and have several things that I definitely intend on improving on for my next English video, which, due to popular demand, will probably be a live HU video. I can promise you all I will give 100% to every video I make for Poker-Strategy, a

Also, I apologize for not including results, but it's something I often disregard in my own HH analysis, as I feel they are far too often relatively irrelevant, and may lead to erroneous conclusions about the EV of plays; they might contradict an excellent analysis, or corroborate poor analysis; both of which are unwanted and easily avoidable consequences. In my opinion, it's much more important to disregard short-term variance and results-oriented thinking and instead focus on discerning our edge and guaranteeing long-term profits through strong, rational analysis. But since so many people asked, I'll post them :P. First hand he typed "88 or 44?" in chat then folded, when I later asked he said he had folded 22. Second hand I snap-called and he showed up with 69 of spades.

Finally, a lot of you commented on how time-consuming and therefore unpractical this whole process is, and whether it's even possible to do in-game. The answer is yes, and it doesn't take a genious either. What you need to do is practice this type of thought process time and time again so that eventually it becomes second nature to you and you are intuitively familiar with the calculations and logical processes inherent to solving the most +ev action in every poker hand. After all, what you're doing in your head when deciding on what action to take in a hand is just a short-hand, speedy version of what I did here. Practice will serve to deepen and speed up your thought processes. Use this video as a guide/template to the type of HH analysis you should look to be doing away from the tables- feel free to post hands on the Poker-Strategy forums and I'll try and comment as much as I can.

Thanks again so much for the comments guys, I'll take everything to heart and try and improve for my next one!

#128 jotap27, 2011 07 29 16:08

Nice video.

#129 peez88, 2011 07 29 20:02

really nice video! i like it!:)

#130 kuncheng, 2011 07 31 10:02

Great video!

#131 TripleAceIRL, 2011 08 02 10:48

Really nice video!

#132 gammastrahler, 2011 08 02 20:26

nice video.
it's for basic because, lockpoker pays girah?

#133 Pascal, 2011 08 03 08:57

Hi gammastrahler,

it is for basic because Girah wanted to have his first video available for everyone and doesn't have anything to do with lockpoker, next ones will be platinum or diamond

Cheers,

Pascal

#134 yegg, 2011 08 03 18:38

hi there and welcome :)

#135 tonyuuu, 2011 08 06 05:44

Hey Jose, great vid. Only problem is I only understand 20% of what you say... What should I do to improve? What can I study? What resources can I use?

#136 tonyuuu, 2011 08 06 05:47

I mean, the way I think about poker is the way Harrington on Hold'em , taught me to. How do I think about poker in a more specific , analytical and mathematical fashion?

#138 mo9jito, 2011 08 07 14:26

scum bag!

but the vid is quite good.

#139 Heffron89, 2011 08 07 14:59

scammer

#140 Heave112, 2011 08 07 16:51

scammer get hit by a car useless shit

#141 lester01, 2011 08 07 19:58

please reupload the video!
he is a scum, but the vid good!

#142 Maniatrix, 2011 08 07 22:28

Video doesn't work...

#143 ElNunho, 2011 08 08 00:27

scammer prodigy!

#144 plusEVqba, 2011 08 08 00:44

good bye Girah ... hate cheating ...

#145 CheckBop, 2011 08 08 02:05

Now we know why the vid was so god, it was Hasseeb...

#146 ElNunho, 2011 08 08 09:23

y exactly, he and jungleman are clearly involved in the whole shit

#147 VBZg, 2011 08 08 09:33

ah, he is scummer, but just put back video, good educational material is still good, who ever puts it there

#148 didko12399, 2011 08 08 16:03

very GOOD VIDEO !

#149 chenny8888, 2011 08 19 04:52

the second hand is an imperfect analysis imo because here i feel villain feels our range is more capped than it is (i feel that it doesn't look like we have a set here very often at all). consequently villain's value range is wider and actually includes a bunch of hands that we beat IMO.

#150 eagle777, 2011 09 08 18:47

When will be next video? do anybody know that?
Why everybody hate this guy, did I missed somthing?

#151 themagpiespg, 2011 09 14 13:59

this video is realy good, shame he is such a crooked frauster. But I guess greed got the better of him and it's a shame he's thrown it a way I he has.

#152 Aik777, 2011 10 31 10:12

Könnt Ihr das mal übersetzen!!!

#153 fortunewheel, 2011 11 29 07:12

shame on you Girah. Pretty pathetic that a player with your skills needs to do criminal stuff to win monies. shame on you people like you ruin the perception of online poker. Let's face it you are a dgenerate

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